dubdobdee ([info]dubdobdee) wrote,
@ 2008-01-21 10:47:00
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wiki-illiam q12!
12. Which words are particularly associated with these small towns and villages:
i: Repton
ii: Thaxted
iii: Wolvercote
iv: Rockingham
v: Down Ampney
vi: Cwm Rhondda
vii: Abbots Leigh
viii: St Clement
ix: Monkland
x: Cranham

the rules:
a: give nice full answers and anecdotes where possible!
b: say if googled or not, and leave a bit of a while for people to answer non-googlingly
c: you're obviously allowed to look ahead at future questions
d: other fora in = (unpoliceably) Out of Bounds till next set is up

er i am not sure here at all, rockingham is a card game and a type of whig, cwm rhonnda i associate with male voice choirs!

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[info]katstevens
2008-01-21 11:11 am UTC (link)
i: Boaters? Some sort of daft hat, at any rate
iv: LORD! Hoots Mon etc :)
vi: Valley? I know Cwm means valley and I think Rhondda might be an old word for valley as well. Valley Valley, innit.

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[info]anatol_merklich
2008-01-21 11:47 am UTC (link)
haha whatever I said on previous q about having 0 x chance due to non-uk-ness goes double here :)

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[info]dubdobdee
2008-01-21 12:10 pm UTC (link)
repton is some sort of private school
wolvercote is a small railway station!

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[info]jeff_worrell
2008-01-21 12:11 pm UTC (link)
'Down Ampney' is church music-related I think. Could be a pseudonym for a hymn tune or a bell-ringing sequence or somthing like that.

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[info]dubdobdee
2008-01-21 12:21 pm UTC (link)
names of hymn tunes!! yes!

rockingham is that also! bah this was my mum's specialist topic -- i miss doin KWQ w.her and dad when his memory was better than mine :(

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[info]jeff_worrell
2008-01-21 12:22 pm UTC (link)
haha is viii 'Danes'?

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[info]jeff_worrell
2008-01-21 12:23 pm UTC (link)
or if it is in fact melodies we're after --> "Oranges and Lemons"?

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ignore, me hearties
[info]jeff_worrell
2008-01-21 12:34 pm UTC (link)
nah, scrub that - "St Clement" is also a hymn tune, I just checked.

So, is that it? Or do we now have to identify the first line of each hymn to satisfy the "Which words..." part of the Qn?

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Re: ignore, me hearties
[info]dubdobdee
2008-01-21 12:48 pm UTC (link)
yes i think it's same diff territory actually -- in the 19th century when most of the hymntunes started to gather routine useage, the tunes were known for the sheet music songs they originally graced; today they're known for the hymns they've stuck to, the non-hymn songs having vanished from human ken like the pop of yesteryear (oh wait)

so yes i imagine the words are the first lines: hymnbooks index hymns by first lines generally

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[info]dubdobdee
2008-01-21 01:07 pm UTC (link)
my guess is if i don't know which is which -- former choir librarian (15-17), played church organ now and then (c.10 xmas services @ £3 per service), mum brilliant memory for all above -- then none of our players will but i will leave it open all the same: then i guess google them all in one go

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w/o googling
[info]catsgomiaow
2008-01-21 01:23 pm UTC (link)
i) HUMPHREY Repton springs to mind. Was he er a landscape gardener or something? In the 1800s? I'm sure he did our school grounds.

I should know Cranham. I'm not sure why but I should!

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Re: w/o googling
[info]catsgomiaow
2008-01-21 01:24 pm UTC (link)
Hilariously, I have just googled Cranham and this lot: http://www.cranhammotorhomes.co.uk/ came up - an old client of ours...

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googled
[info]dubdobdee
2008-01-21 05:24 pm UTC (link)
Repton (Parry): "Dear Lord and Father of mankind forgive our foolish ways"
Thaxted (Holst)" "I vow to thee my country"
Wolvercote (Ferguson): "O Jesus I have promised to serve thee to the end"
Rockingham (Miller or Mason): "When I survey the Wondrous Cross"
Down Ampney (Vaughan Williams): "Come down oh Love Divine"
Cwm Rhondda (Hughes): "Guide me, oh, Thou Great Redeemer"/"Arglwydd, arwain trwy'r anialwch" <--- controversial!
Abbots Leigh (Taylor): "Glorious things of Thee are Spoken"
St Clement (Scholefield): "The day Thou givest, Lord, is ended"
Monkland (Moravian melody arr.Wilkes): "Let us with a gladsome mind"
Cranham (Holst): "In the bleak midwinter" (forget if this is a well-known tune to this carol -- I know it has two)

Even apart from the Welsh issue -- where the words associated are at least a translation of one another -- there are several instances where more than one hymn is associated with a given tune, so there must be a tie-breaker (ie which one it's on the same page as in Hymns Ancient and Modern, most likely)

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Re: googled
(Anonymous)
2008-01-22 06:44 pm UTC (link)
Mmm, does depend on the hymnbook, don't it. Abbot's Leigh isn't even in a previous version of ours, and is now used for either 'Holy Spirit ever-living', or 'Ye that know the Lord is gracious', neither of which is hugely popular, I don't think. 'Glorious things of Thee are spoken' is always sung to 'Austrian Hymn', a-used-to-be-k-a 'Deutschland über alles". They're all 8787.D anyway, so 'Glorious ...' fits perfectly, but wouldn't be thought of.

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[info]jeff_worrell
2008-01-21 08:07 pm UTC (link)
I googled some farm answers, as I was fed up workin'

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